Dbol, Proviron and Nolvadex - dosages.User Name Remember Me? Noolva me at least. After much discussion in this thread and some experimentation on my part I have come to the proviron and nolva on cycle that proviron in combination with nolvadex makes gyno twinmuscleworkout steroids in my case! I have run Test many times in the past. Always been a little sensitive to gyno but nothing that mgs of nolvadex a day didn't take care of.
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User Name Remember Me? For me at least.. After much discussion in this thread and some experimentation on my part I have come to the conclusion that proviron in combination with nolvadex makes gyno worse in my case! I have run Test many times in the past. Always been a little sensitive to gyno but nothing that mgs of nolvadex a day didn't take care of. For the first time with this cycle I had decided to run proviron along with the test after reading and hearing many good things about it.
Within 2 weeks my nips were starting to get a little sensitive like they always do with test. I added in nolv at 20mgs a day like always thinking the gyno would go away in about a week like it always does at that dose. That is when I made my post speculating about a interaction between proviron and nolvadex. About 5 days after I stopped the proviron, the nip sensitivity was gone. I was still not convinced that the proviron and nolv combination was causing the problems though.
I started the proviron back up at the same dosage as before. Sure enough, a week later, here I sit with sensitive nips and a small lump. The only conclusion I can come to is that proviron in combination with nolvadex causes gyno. This is my speculation of why this may happen. My thought is that the proviron is making the nolvadex much less effective and Vice Versa. I have once again dropped the proviron and am just running test along with 40mgs of nolv a day. I will update in a few days.
Last edited by Bouncer; at I think this one has been beat to death already bro - but all I can say is I don't see how that could possibly happen especially since both have anti -e effects using them together has never caused this to happen to anyone else I have ever heard of there must be something about your bodies chemical make up but I sure as hell dont understand what it would be.
Somewhat like the letro and nolva canceling each other thing? Only thing I can think of is that your body sensed no need to convert the overage of test to dht since the prov was around, so it decided to convert it to estrogen. I think the prov and 20mg of nolva just weren't enough to handle that much. It may be the same mechanism that makes Letro and nolv not work together.
Does anyone have any info on what it is exactly that makes letro and nolv and bad combo? One thought is that Nolv is actually a weak estrogen. By taking something that basically kills estrogen, maybe your killing the nolv in a sense. I know this is an old thread Bouncer, but I just wanted to add my experiences since I've encountered the exact same situation. For the first time ever, I decided to add 50mg of Proviron to my cycle with my normal ancillary of nolva at 20mgs. My decision to add 50mg of Proviron was based on its enhancement of the the effects of the test in my system.
Anyway, in week two of this cycle, my nipples started to get crazy sensitive! This had never happened to be before, and I have ran this exact same cycle on several occasions in the past without coadministering nolva like I do now. Low and behold, I dropped the Proviron to 25mgs and the nipple sensitivity went away within a week. I've always wondered what caused that to happen?!?! Originally Posted by IanMazia. For me, when I first started juicin, I would never run an anti-estrogen with my cycles.
For the past two years, I have been adding nolva to the mix at 20mgs for every cycle I have done, and I never had an incidence of gyno. All of a sudden when I added 50mgs of Proviron to the mix, I get gyno like symptoms. I knew I wasn't crazy. I wish we could get to the bottom of this.
I wonder if somehow the proviron and nolvadex are canceling each other out. Humm can you try test at your regular dose and proviron at 50mgs with no nolva and see what happens? I have a theory that might explain this crazy conundrum.
When we inject test into our system at a substantial amount, our bodies natural reaction is to increase SHBG to balance out the ratio of hormones in our body. Proviron negates this increase by binding to the SHBG and thereby allowing a large amount of testosterone to remain in an unbounded state and thereby making it more susceptible to aromatize into estrogen.
My theory is that when this happens, Novla at a low dose of 10mgsmgs is not going to be adequate or strong enough to prevent this increased aromatization. Does that kinda make sense? I have an aching suspicion that i'll get hit with gyno like symptoms again if i do that. Based on my previous experiences, that is not an experiment that I'm willing to endeavor on just yet! Originally Posted by ms That is very strange. Just goes to show,, what works for one,, doesnt always work for another.
I'm planning to do Test at mg per week and masteron 1ml EDO to every three days so this will presumably bring about the same issue or not. My own thoughts were that with the Masteron in abundance I hopefully wont get much aromatisatio from the test. If it does happen I have either letro or l-dex in stock which hopefully wouldn't contradict the proviron in the same way as nolva the event of.
Does this sound logical? I run a much lower dose of nolva when I'm on just to make sure that adex can still do it's job: I do 10mg of nolva ED along with. Originally Posted by hitmansb. Originally Posted by Mr incredible. I mean that by taking a lower dose of nolva, the likelihood of it interfering with adex is very low.
Remember, Bouncer mentioned that one can reduce the effectiveness of the other I am simply stating that at the doses I mentioned, I have not found it to be a problem. Thread Tools Show Printable Version. Add Thread to del. Superior Newbie Join Date: Superior Freak Join Date: Step aerobics class Age: Originally Posted by beefcake I think the prov and 20mg of nolva just weren't enough to handle that much.
Founding Member Join Date: Originally Posted by IanMazia I know this is an old thread Bouncer, but I just wanted to add my experiences since I've encountered the exact same situation. Originally Posted by IanMazia In a sense. Originally Posted by IanMazia I have a theory that might explain this crazy conundrum. Originally Posted by IanMazia I have an aching suspicion that i'll get hit with gyno like symptoms again if i do that.
Originally Posted by ms80 ive heard 3 defrent ways to take letro. Superior Pro Join Date: Self Righteous Brit Posts: Originally Posted by hitmansb I run a much lower dose of nolva when I'm on just to make sure that adex can still do it's job: Originally Posted by Mr incredible What do you mean?
Originally Posted by hitmansb I mean that by taking a lower dose of nolva, the likelihood of it interfering with adex is very low.